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A votre avis, pour qui voteront les électeurs américains ?

  • Démocrates

    Votes: 198 58.8%
  • Républicains

    Votes: 72 21.4%
  • Je ne sais pas mais ça m'inquiète

    Votes: 69 20.5%

  • Total des votants
    337
tbark allah 3la l'morassila dyalna mina al bayti al abyad :D

cuty-pie , bladi from white house (not casablanca : D)


mdrrrrrrrrrrrr

wal2an sayidati sadati...:langue:
Here are 25 critical counties that could help determine the winner of this year's race.

1) Washoe County, Nev.: The second-most populous county in the state and home to Reno, once-reliably Republican Washoe gave Bush a narrow 51 percent to 47 percent win in 2004. McCain needs to run at least as well in Washoe and win Nevada’s rural counties to overcome Obama’s expected win in Nevada’s population hub, Las Vegas’ Clark County.

2) Douglas County, Neb.: It seems almost unthinkable that Omaha’s Douglas County, which gave Bush 58 percent of its votes in 2004, would make this list. But because Nebraska is one of just two states that allocates an electoral vote to the winner of each congressional district, rather than awarding them all to the statewide vote winner, the Obama campaign has made a determined effort to win the Douglas County-based 2nd district — the least Republican of Nebraska’s three seats. In a close race, that one electoral vote might make all the difference.

3) Bernalillo County, N.M.: Home to about one-third of New Mexico’s population, Albuquerque’s Bernalillo County is critical for both campaigns. Obama will likely carry the county, but the margin will be important in a state where the results of the last two presidential elections have been breathtakingly close.

4) Dona Ana County, N.M.: McCain's bid for New Mexico depends on his tapping into the growing numbers of independent voters in the Democratic-leaning county that is home to Las Cruces, the state’s second-largest city.

5) St. Louis County, Mo.: McCain will likely win rural Missouri and Obama will win the big urban bookends, St. Louis and Kansas City. But McCain also needs to keep Obama from outperforming John F. Kerry's 55 percent in Democratic-leaning suburban St. Louis County, which is the most populous in the state — and which doesn’t include the city of St. Louis within its borders.

6) Greene County, Mo.: Home to the headquarters of the Assemblies of God, one of the largest Protestant denominations, Springfield’s Greene County is critical to McCain’s bid for Missouri’s 11 electoral votes. Bush won 62 percent here in 2004, and McCain needs to hit that number or surpass it — which is why Obama showed up here in the final week of the campaign.



7) Jefferson County, Colo.: There are still more registered Republicans than Democrats in this Denver suburb, but it may not be that way for long. Once a GOP bastion, Jeffco has moved to the center in recent years; Bush carried it in 2004 but so did Democrat Ken Salazar in his Senate race. One measure of the county's importance — GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin was dispatched here to hold one of her first solo events after the Republican National Convention.

8) El Paso County, Colo.: This conservative stronghold, home to Colorado Springs, produces GOP margins that are almost enough to offset the Democratic vote advantage in Denver. McCain will need to take at least two-thirds of the vote here in Colorado’s second-most populous county to have any shot at winning the state.

9) Franklin County, Ohio: Ohio’s second-largest population hub after Cleveland’s Cuyahoga County, Columbus’ Franklin County is trending increasingly Democratic. Since Cincinnati’s Hamilton County is no longer a reliable Republican bulwark, a big Obama win here would go a long way toward sinking McCain’s chances in the state.

10) Butler County, Ohio: Cincinnati’s suburban Butler County was a key part of the exurban and micropolitan firewall that enabled Bush to carry Ohio in 2004. The 54,000-vote margin it delivered to Bush was his largest in any county in the state.

11) Mahoning County, Ohio: As a vote source, Youngstown’s Mahoning County pales next to Cuyahoga County, Franklin County, Dayton’s Montgomery County, Akron’s Summit County or Toledo’s Lucas County. But the results here will be revealing because if Obama is running below 60 percent in this industrial area, that’s a bad sign for him — and it probably signals he’s struggling in western Pennsylvania, too.

12) Lancaster County, Pa.: George Bush won 66 percent here in the heart of Pennsylvania Dutch country in 2004 while narrowly losing Pennsylvania. McCain will need to do at least as well here to help offset the massive margin Barack Obama will win in Philadelphia.

13) Philadelphia County, Pa.: There is no real Philadelphia County; it’s coterminous with the city itself. In 2004, Kerry won a blowout 80 percent win here — and left the city with a 412,000-vote margin of victory. The McCain campaign questions whether Obama can exceed that jaw-dropping number and figures that if they can keep Obama below that 412,000-vote margin, they can make up the difference in the rest of the state. “If you can figure out what I’m going to lose [Philadelphia] by,” said McCain campaign manager Rick Davis on Sunday, “you’ll know if I can win Pennsylvania.”

14) Westmoreland County, Pa.: After Pittsburgh’s Allegheny County, this is the largest county in western Pennsylvania. It’s been trending Republican, so it’s fertile ground for McCain, and Hillary Clinton crushed Obama here in the Democratic primary. For McCain, winning Pennsylvania is contingent on winning western Pennsylvania, and winning western Pennsylvania is contingent on winning Westmoreland.

15) Chester County, Pa.: Of the big four suburban Philadelphia counties, Chester is the only one that voted for Bush in 2004. But GOP margins there are on the decline and Chester appears to be up for grabs this year. If Obama wins here, then he probably carries the other three suburban counties by even larger margins. Add them to the landslide he’ll win in Philadelphia and all of sudden Pennsylvania begins to look out of reach for McCain.

16) Maricopa County, Ariz.: After Los Angeles County, no county in the nation delivered more votes to Bush in 2004 than Phoenix’s Maricopa County. If McCain can’t duplicate or beat Bush’s 57 percent in his own backyard, then he may be destined for Al Gore’s humbling fate — losing his home state.

17) Cobb County, Ga.: Since 1976, GOP presidential nominees have averaged 62 percent in this populous Atlanta suburb. But polls show McCain running considerably behind that clip in Cobb. McCain isn’t a great fit in the socially conservative county, but there is another factor at play in driving down his numbers: Roughly a fifth of the population is African-American. Then there is the wildcard — the Libertarian nominee, Bob Barr, was once the local congressman.

18) Lake County, Ind.: Home to Gary and East Chicago, Lake County drew national notice during the Democratic primary in May after its votes came in suspiciously late. Obama will need a strong performance out of this heavily Democratic county to have any chance of winning Indiana.

19) Prince William County, Va.: Between 1976 and 2004, fast-growing, exurban Prince William County in Northern Virginia supported Republican presidential candidates by an average margin of 18 points. But as it’s grown more diverse, GOP margins have declined considerably. In 2005, it voted for Democrat Tim Kaine for governor. Both presidential campaigns have paid close attention to the county, but Obama through mid-October held an 8-point lead here, according to a Politico/InsiderAdvantage poll. If he wins by that margin on Election Day, it would probably be a harbinger of a Northern Virginia blowout that would overwhelm McCain’s ability to offset it with votes from elsewhere in the state.

20) Hillsborough County, Fla.: Both campaigns have given lots of love to Tampa's Hillsborough County — McCain was there just yesterday — which Bush carried 53 percent to 46 percent in 2004. In presidential elections, it has a slight Republican lean but Obama is outperforming Kerry here this year in what is one of Florida’s premier battlegrounds. Since 1960, no candidate has won Florida without winning Hillsborough County.

21) Hillsborough County, N.H.: If New Hampshire is going to deliver for John McCain once again, this is the county that will do the heavy lifting. The largest county in the state and home to Manchester, Hillsborough twice voted narrowly for George Bush.

22) Wake County, N.C. : Though twice carried by Bush, Wake County’s trendline is Democratic as the affluent and educated electorate in the Research Triangle moves away from the GOP. The state's second-most populous county after Charlotte's Mecklenburg County, if Obama wins big here that's a troubling sign for McCain.
 
Conti........

23) Waukesha County, Wis.: McCain needs to roll up big margins here in Wisconsin’s third-largest county, just west of Milwaukee, to have any shot at winning the state. Anything less than two-thirds of the vote means McCain would have a very tough time overcoming the big Democratic margins coming out of Milwaukee and Madison’s Dane County.

24) Oakland County, Mich.: Michigan is a longshot for McCain, but if he wins the state it will begin with a victory here in this historically Republican suburb of Detroit. The problem? Oakland County, the second-largest in Michigan after Detroit’s Wayne County, is trending Democratic and narrowly voted against Bush in 2000 and 2004.

25) Cass County, N.D.: If Obama does the unimaginable and wins North Dakota — and polls suggest he's got a shot at it — it will be because he carried Fargo’s Cass County, the motherlode of votes in a sparsely populated state. Here’s what he’s up against — the past two Democratic nominees have failed to crack 40 percent here.
 
Il n'y a plus très longtemps a attendre.. pour savoir (a moins d'un mic mac comme la dernière fois en Floride... les machines qui votent toutes seules... les vents du sud.. ou les vents du nord)
 
Alors apparement ce nombre d'electoral vote, qui est une pondération, ne semble pas proportionel à la population, sinon il ne serait pas possible d'avoir moins de voix qu'une personne est de gagner les elections.

Ou alors je n'ai pas bien compris.

Tu es stasunien aussi toi ? : langue:

Non pas du tout, je ne vis pas au Stasen :-D

Pour répondre à ta première question mais si c'est possible, supposons que Bush avait gagné en 2000 pas mal d'Etats avec seulement 51% (et donc il a raflé tout les Electoral Votes de l'Etat), alors que Al Gore a gagné ses Etats avec une majorité plus nette (60%-65%),... au final même si ce dernier a eu le plus grand nombre de votants, le système du "all or nothing", conduit à ce biais.
C'est le système :rolleyes: et comme dit Jamel, Bah le système il est ni bon ni mauvais, il est pourri ta gueule c'est comme ça! :D
 
Je ne crois pas trop au sondage mais pour une fois je veux que la revolution l'emporte............. et je compte vraiment sur la representativité de ce sondage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
De faux mails pour dissuader les électeurs
Source : CNN
04/11/2008 | Mise à jour : 23:13 | .
Selon CNN, des électeurs démocrates de plusieurs Etats auraient reçus des messages par SMS ou mail, parfois signés comme "CNN breaking news", les incitant à ne pas aller voter. Ces messages, envoyés principalement en Floride, Virgine ou dans le Missouri, trois Etats-clés, expliquent que devant le record d'affluence, les électeurs d'Obama doivent attendre demain mercredi pour aller voter.

Les autorités de ces Etats promettent une enquête et des poursuite à l'encontre des auteurs de ces messages trompeurs.
 
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Bladi-Breaking news :langue:

Les bureaux du Kentucki et de l'Indiana ont fermé il y a 10 minutes.

On relève entre 65% et 80% de participation selon les états, ce qui représente, si j'ai bien compris plusieurs millions d'electeurs de plus que lors des précédentes élections.

Le verdict n'est prévu que pour dans quelques heures ....

Quel suspens :D
 
Les premiers bureaux de vote ont fermé mardi soir à minuit, heure française, et les premiers grands électeurs se partagent entre le républicain John McCain, qui obtient, sans surprise, la majorité dans l'Etat du Kentucky (63% contre 36%, selon CBS) et le démocrate Barack Obama, qui l'emporte dans l'Indiana (52% contre 47%).
 
Les premiers bureaux de vote ont fermé mardi soir à minuit, heure française, et les premiers grands électeurs se partagent entre le républicain John McCain, qui obtient, sans surprise, la majorité dans l'Etat du Kentucky (63% contre 36%, selon CBS) et le démocrate Barack Obama, qui l'emporte dans l'Indiana (52% contre 47%).


ok, Merci inesss pour ces info :D
 
Les premiers bureaux de vote ont fermé mardi soir à minuit, heure française, et les premiers grands électeurs se partagent entre le républicain John McCain, qui obtient, sans surprise, la majorité dans l'Etat du Kentucky (63% contre 36%, selon CBS) et le démocrate Barack Obama, qui l'emporte dans l'Indiana (52% contre 47%).
Apparemment ça s'est resserré dans l'Etat du KFC, c'est 51%-49% pour McCain !!! :rolleyes:
 
allez dormir les petits!:rouge:

une défaite est toujours plus facile à prendre au petit-matin que tard la nuit!

c'est que je sens que le système de vote va avantager McCain de justesse et qu'il va gagner!

enfin...Insh'Allah jai pas raison ptêtre bien!
 
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